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2010.12.23 我的YY(2011-01-12 22:38:06)
标签:我的 环保 纠结 可行性报告 你跟 找上门 投钱
分类:中成杂谈不少朋友都在问我在去年12月23日究竟写了些啥
我就把它贴上来,供大家无聊时把玩一番
"TSC的出现很突然,但也不是没有先兆。中成出12.14公告时,应该是知道有这样一个角色进入的。
再回头看中成的MPC可行性报告。12.14公告中谈到了专家们同意了部分观点,但没有就整体的可行性报告达成一致。
那剩下的部分是什么?我不相信是环保。。。我记得有一条市场评论:MPC项目一旦融资条件成熟,中成就有可能签约
我个人认为,专家纠结的是MAA的资产太差,不足以承担全额贷款的风险
我在以往的博文中也说过,银行贷款的条件:30%自有资金
所以MAA关于TSC的公告中反复强调了这个70:30,这句话是说给中成或其他贷款人听的
我的逻辑是:长沙设计院与专家达成了一致意见:开采技术条件没有问题,环保也可以解决
专家组的最后一个条件是:MAA必须达到工程建设金额贷款的最低底线:30%
所以,MAA被逼无奈,签下了TSC这个战略财务投资人
接下来的故事就是TSC与中成的谈判了
中成有罗钾有长沙设计院,对于工程建设也进行了长达8个多月的考察
而TSC只有短短的2个半月,其中包括一个春节
它有时间进行全面细致的DD吗?没有可能
也不必要,其实它要做的DD就是问中成
如果我投了,资金达到贷款底线30%,你跟不跟
如此中成的选择有2个:
1.单做项目,提供额外的70%贷款
2.做项目,也投30%控股MPC,再提供40%贷款
这第2条与原来的框架协议一样,只是逼着MAA(TSC)也投入真金白银
当然这一切都是基于TSC自身没有解决方案的基础上的。昨晚市场的反应正是这一思路的体现,没人相信TSC能提供解决方案。
TSC条款只是MAA走向债务融资的不得已一步,成了还得找人投钱,只不过公司换了个老板。就象从原来的CEO换成RICH
对151有变化吗?没有
中成要做的,就是等,等TSC找上门来做DD
:)"
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just the link to the Zanaga webpage, if you google around you will find more about Zanaga and Xstrata. Without Xstrata Zanaga would had been never able to finance such a huge iron ore mining project in "our hinterland".
http://zanagairon.com/about-us/strategic-partnership-with-xstrata/
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有人说中国和刚钾的关系没死透
现在根据maa的股民的摸索
TSC这家在BVI 注册的公司,一些表面证据将其背景指向Xstrata公司
斯特拉塔(Xstrata)集团公司总部位于瑞士楚格,是全球第七大矿业公司,主要生产铜、锌、煤、镍等。2009年实现利润27.73亿美元。其业务遍及全球20个多个国家,主要工矿分布在英国、澳大利亚、美国、加拿大、巴西、阿根廷等国。
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一个证券分析师 分析矿产类股票的 同时也持有MAG的股票
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老外说的这个Bruce Campbell是干什么的?
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和POORS一样不死心的国外也有!!!
BNN Bruce Campbell
I just phoned in and asked about MAA. My impression was that he doesn't seem as positive about the stock and he doesn't know anything about TSC and he called them TLC. He still owns it,and believes a deal will get done.Said it should go to $1.00or $1.10 on the deal.Also says there is risk,as we all know. Your questions were great, besides his slip up on the name, he did give the impression that this deal probably will go through. But his past comments show that he doesn`t know anymore than what we all know...in three months time we`ll find out.
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很感动honeywood 的坚持,好久没有看贴了,唉
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received some interesting correspondance from IR. I always thought even now we would be open to a Complant deal if SDIC made a favourable decision, but I was informed Mag would not speak to Complant until March 1st as they have given exclustivity to TSC. Maybe if SDIC said lets make the deal and the terms were good, Mag would break the exclusive clause??? and take some penalty??, but as for now Mag seems to be waiting until March1st to give TSC the option to proceed and will not entertain offers (even from Complant). I did not realize the Chinese option was so off the table, I thought speaking to TSC would increase "competitive tension", not eliminate it....
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物极必反 否极泰来
新资金已逐渐介入