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问:公司今年海外业务的占比将达到70%,相对于2010年有20%的增长,这个数据真实吗?
答:这个是预计的,有这个趋势.去年我们公司海外业务的占比是50%多.
问:去年占比是58%
答:恩,是这个数.
这个问题我个人觉得很满意了,大家公认的油田服务业最大的市场在海外,2010年恒泰艾普主要是靠海外业务的高增长,58%的海外业务占比相对公司2009年已不俗,2010年公司的成长主要体现在海外业务接的几个大单,当初市场还有担心2010年公司是为了上市靠几个国内三大油给的海外的大单包装业绩.其2011年的业绩如果没有海外业务的增长可能趋于平淡甚至变脸.这个担心现在基本可以消除.
换句话说,如果不是看中恒泰艾普海外业务的高成长,个人认为目前公司的估值毫无吸引力,要知道同行业版块的潜能恒信目前才35块多,整整便宜了20多块.
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答:哦,我手头还没有这份资料呢?
问:是中国日报对公司尹副总的专访.
答:尹总呀,对的,是有这回事的.但我手头还没有这篇文章呢
问:您百度一下就可以了,中国日报CHINA DAILY,加上公司的英文名,很容易的.
答:那我找找,恩......找到了
问:能说说公司是否有新的业务?
答:不是新的业务呀.(让我有点失望)
问:我个人的理解公司原来的业务是分两块,一块是软件销售,另一块是项目服务,也就是俗称的帮石油公司"找油".对吧?
答:是的.
问:那怎么解释LandOcean Energy Service Co Ltd will expand its business into the exploration sector for the first time in 2011.这里是很明确的写出公司在2011年THE FIRSTTIME(第一次)进入exploration sector (石油勘探业务).不是吗?
答:确实不是新的业务,媒体的翻译不是很准确吧(让我再次失望中)
问:那没有什么不同吗?
答:呃......有一点不同是这样的,以前我们公司做的业务主要是国内原有的老油田的二次开发,现在有做新的油田的成片开发(具体新油田大概是指国外的,这点关键的隔了几天我不能确定了)
答:我们公司主要是在产业链上加粗,加宽,加深............(这个年报和一季报都有写呀,MM开始和我打官腔啦)
第一个问题我感觉因为我太外行,已经没法再问下去了.唯一的收获是公司有开发或者是说是勘探大至是海外的成片新油田的业务或者是预期.
论坛要是有懂行的朋友最好能帮忙解读一下.下面接着回忆对话.
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看来近期创业版股票的低迷,对创业版感兴趣的朋友不是很多,为了不让贴子成为太监我还是坚持把它写完吧.
因为自己一直逐步在买入公司的股票平时也很关注公司的资讯,话说恒泰艾普在自己的官方网站的信息更新一直还是很不错的,在投资者关系平台上对投资者的提问前几个月回答得也很及时,不过最近一段时间才开始有点慢了.我对该公司的情况大致有些了解,主要针对于这篇中国日报的报道的三个亮点我还是很好奇,于是5月11日拨通了公司证券部的电话.(下文的问方是我本人,答方是公司的证券部,我尽量凭回忆力求还原真实的对答)
问:请问是公司的证券部吗?
答:是的
问:我是持有贵公司股票的一名投资者,有几个问题想向您了解一下,可以吗?
答:恩,可以的.(停顿了一下,估计这个MM平时不是很忙吧,打电话给她的应该不多)
问:我看到最新的一篇公司报道,因为对公司的业务不是很了解.对其中有三个问题向您咨询一下.
答:是什么报道呢?
问:5月9日中国日报报道了公司将在2011年将新进入 exploration sector ,是不是公司有了新的业务品种.因为中国日报的是英文版的,我不是很理解exploration这个词的确切含义.但华尔街日报中文网是把这条消息解释成公司2011年将进入石油勘探业务.
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谢谢楼上"基技合璧"兄对恒泰艾普一季报的解读,本人对财务方面天生愚钝.不过估计除了公司业务有一定增长其余也是大概如此.
因为公司一季度基数比较低,这份报表意义其实不大.所以公司不愿回答我这方面的问题,这次电话沟通我也干脆就不提了.
令我感兴趣的是对这篇中国日报(China Daily)的报道的几个亮点.我个人认为中国日报在国内还是比较靠谱和严肃的媒体了.(因是英文版我权且用我的三角猫的英文试着接读一下)
1. LandOcean Energy Service Co Ltd will expand its business into the exploration sector for the first time in 2011.
恒泰艾普将在2011年扩大它的业务范围进入首次进入石油勘探业务
2. He told China Daily that the company's overseas projects will make up as much as 70 percent of its total business this year, showing a 20 percent growth from 2010.
他(公司尹副总)告诉中国日报记者公司今年海外业务的占比将达到70%,相对于2010年有20%的增长.
3.Now 70 percent of the company's overseas business is not directly related to them
现在公司70%的业务已并不直接依托于国内的三大油(中石油,中石化和中海油)
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查一下正式的季度报表就知道了,是去年的基数低。去年其营业利润是负的,靠213万营业外收入让其去年一季的利润总额才勉强达到194万元。另一个就是靠募集资金的利息收入,及算上其因此而减少的资产减值损失,两项增加利润300多万元。
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Business LandOcean goes it alone internationally
By Du Juan and Zhou Yan (China Daily)
Updated: 2011-05-09 07:54 Large Medium Small
BEIJING - Aiming at becoming the biggest private oil and gas service company in Southeast Asia, LandOcean Energy Service Co Ltd will expand its business into the exploration sector for the first time in 2011.
The company is preparing to explore some oil fields in Chinese territories and abroad. The details of the projects are under discussion, said Yin Xudong, vice-president of the company.
"We are making efforts to make our company become more comprehensive and competitive in the global market," he said.
He told China Daily that the company's overseas projects will make up as much as 70 percent of its total business this year, showing a 20 percent growth from 2010.
The company started to get involved in the international market a decade ago by cooperating with the nations' three State-owned oil companies - China National Petroleum Corp (CNPC), China Petroleum and Chemical Corp (Sinopec) and China National Offshore Oil Corporation (CNOOC), but now its business has been flourishing without the big three. Now 70 percent of the company's overseas business is not directly related to them.
They have independent projects in countries including Brazil and Ecuador in South America and other businesses in Indonesia, Malaysia and countries in the Middle East.
The company plans to participate more in the global energy market using its advanced technologies and rich skill base.
Established in 2001 by both overseas and domestic businessmen, the company now has more than 400 employees. Five percent of them are former students who have returned from overseas. It has also set up offices in Houston in the United States and Calgary in Canada.
Yin said the development of the Chinese oil and gas industry is a history of innovation and creation of which the key is new technology.
"Our employees have great experience of working with complex geological phenomena and the technologies are developed from that. We therefore have certain advantages compared with foreign companies," Yin said.
The vice-president said the government had provided preferential policies for the development of companies in the Zhongguancun National Innovation Demonstration Zone, a hot spot in Beijing for entrepreneurship and investment in China's high-technology industry. That was the reason why it chose Zhongguancun as its base at its launch.
"We enrolled 20 to 30 graduates over the past two years from universities including Peking University, Tsinghua University and China University of Petroleum in the zone. They are excellent at software skills and the knowledge of geophysics that we require. The abundant skills resource is also an attraction of the zone," Yin said.
The government gives financial, policy and research support to the high-tech companies in the zone. Yin said older, talented people who have returned from overseas like him can get 1 million yuan from the local government in relocation grants, team-building funds and to pay for academic research.
The gross revenue of all the companies in the zone reached 1.55 trillion yuan ($282 billion) in 2010, accounting for 19.2 percent of the capital's gross domestic product, according to official figures.
China Daily
(China Daily 05/09/2011 page16)
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公司不正面回答我这个问题也就做罢了,毕竟公司业绩还是在成长.
真正促使我第一次打给上市公司证券部电话的是华尔街日报中文网这样一条很不起眼的短讯.
2011年 5月 9日 11:31
恒泰艾普计划2011年涉足石油勘探领域
字体《中国日报》(China Daily)周一报导,恒泰艾普石油天然气技术服务股份有限公司(LandOcean Energy Services Co., 300157.SZ, 简称:恒泰艾普)计划今年开展石油勘探业务。
报导援引恒泰艾普副总经理尹旭东的话称,勘探地点包括海内外油田。
报导还称,海外项目在恒泰艾普今年业务中的占比为70%,去年为58%。
股市投资的乐趣除了金钱的收益对于我来说可能也在于此了,原本不熟悉和不关心的事物因为投资而变得更好奇和留意.
中国日报(China Daily)这个读书的时候偶尔买来看看的,百度了一下搜出了原文,凭着三角猫的英文看懂了大意,疑惑就更大了?
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不难看出,光从报表上看两家公司都是很优秀,归属于上市公司股东的净利润的增长速度高于营业总收入的增长速度.也就是说公司的业务增长的同时毛利和净利没有降低,抛开股票估值来看个人认为这是我们投资一家公司最终能否赚钱的重要因素.
但恒泰艾普 营业总收入 30.27%的增长却带来 归属于上市公司股东的净利润 187.10%的增长委实恐怖.
带着这个疑问我先是在投资者关系平台的业绩说明会上向公司反复提出这个问题:
公司一季度的收入结构是主要来源于软件销售还是项目服务?股东的净利润的增长远远高于营业总收入增长的势头能否有持续性?
是否因为去年一季度业绩基数比较低同比才有如此高的增长?
遗憾的是公司在业绩说明会上一直没有回答我的这个问题而是选择屏蔽掉我的这个提问.或许公司出于自我保护方面对此有所保留.
其实我也明白这样不合常理的增长应该不具有普遍意义,只是做为外行很好奇是什么样的业务能有如此低投入又高回报?
难道油田服务这块业务确实是像大家所说的高毛利已至于不把报表做得难看点就难免天怒人怨了.
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因为我只持有恒泰艾普和汇川技术两家公司的股票,恰好4.27日两家公司都公布了一季报.汇川因为华为的团队一直是公认的另人放心的公司.
但两相比教还是很另我吃惊和迷惑.
恒泰艾普
本报告期比上年同期增减
报告期 上年同期
(%)
营业总收入(元) 34,376,006.57 26,388,016.47 30.27%
归属于上市公司股东的净利润(元) 11,832,064.90 4,121,211.66 187.10%
基本每股收益(元/股) 0.13 0.06 116.67%
稀释每股收益(元/股) 0.13 0.06 116.67%
汇川技术 本报告期比上年同期增减
报告期 上年同期
(%)
营业总收入(元) 208,255,117.88 100,846,715.29 106.51%
归属于上市公司股东的净利润(元) 71,549,067.82 27,707,983.07 158.23%
基本每股收益(元/股) 0.66 0.34 94.12%
稀释每股收益(元/股) 0.66 0.34 94.12%
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