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电池好比CPU
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好贴
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好贴,深圳的磷酸铁锂股市已经开始讲开了
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A股在锂电池这方面实在看不到有希望的个股。上游锂资源丰富,碳酸锂价低,中信国安纯概念。电极材料方面只有杉杉和宝安有真实度。但杉杉股份只是技术跟踪磷酸铁锂,根本没有量产能力。现在还沉溺于锰酸锂等正极材料中,管理层保守观察磷酸铁锂市场。宝安是锂电池负极和磷酸铁锂正极的国家标准制定者,也有一定的生产能力,但生产成本较高,还保持在12-13万每吨。非常重要的产品品质还处于下层。最致命的是新能源占EPS比例过低,就算爆炸性成长也对股价提升不会很多。品质高,有量产能力的北大先行和天津斯特兰没有上市。电池方面比亚迪只是在香港上市。A股方面没有好的标的,苦恼不知道买谁。请LZ指点。
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Chrysler LLC Forms Strategic Alliance with A123Systems for ENVI Electric Vehicle Lineup
SOURCE Chrysler LLC
A123Systems to Supply Michigan-made Lithium-ion Battery
• Chrysler LLC signs agreement with A123Systems, a U.S.-based battery supplier, for advanced Nanophosphate™ Lithium ion prismatic battery cells, and jointly developed battery modules and battery packs for Chrysler’s Range-extended Electric Vehicle and battery only Electric Vehicle production programs
• Partnership reinforces both companies’ commitment to expand battery manufacturing technology in the United States, reducing dependency on foreign sources of energy and greenhouse gas emissions
Chrysler LLC today announced one of its strategic partners and production battery supplier for the company's first production electric vehicles. Chrysler LLC and A123Systems have signed an agreement stating that A123Systems will supply energy storage systems for Chrysler's first-generation ENVI Range-extended Electric Vehicles and battery only Electric Vehicles. A123Systems is an American battery supplier with plans for a Michigan-based production facility.
"This is a great example of two American companies working together to put cutting-edge technology on the road," said Frank Klegon, Executive Vice President-Product Development, Chrysler LLC. "The most significant challenge to electric vehicles is battery technology. The diligent selection of strategic partners like A123Systems helps Chrysler achieve its leadership in electric-drive systems and vehicles."
"Chrysler's partnership with A123Systems marks a significant milestone at a critical time in the automotive industry and in the state of Michigan," said Michigan Governor Jennifer M. Granholm. "This strategic alliance that will result in two companies joining forces to develop and produce advanced technology in Michigan will create new jobs in the state, deliver benefits to consumers and contribute significantly to bringing more environmentally friendly vehicles to market."
The heart of ENVI's battery system is a scalable battery module, as demonstrated in ENVI's five electric-drive vehicles showcased at the 2009 North American International Auto Show in Detroit. The five vehicles included the Dodge Circuit EV, Jeep(R) Wrangler EV, Jeep Patriot EV, Chrysler Town & Country EV and the Chrysler 200C EV concept. At the reveal, Chrysler announced its intention to bring the company's first production electric vehicle to market in 2010.
Individual lithium ion prismatic cells are integrated with a proprietary battery management safety system to create an efficient and flexible energy storage solution. This strategy is integrated in all of Chrysler's upcoming electric-drive vehicles, helping increase production volumes of the shared battery cell and shared battery module. Chrysler's approach reduces development time, investment, and overall battery system cost by combining the economics of high-volume component sharing without sacrificing the battery pack flexibility needed to develop a wide range of customer-driven electric-drive vehicles.
"We're very proud to have been selected to supply advanced battery systems for Chrysler's family of ENVI electric-drive vehicles," said David Vieau, President and CEO of A123Systems. "This bold move by Chrysler changes the game and greatly improves our country's ability to modernize our transportation fleet. We're confident that our collaboration with Chrysler will serve as proof that American innovation is alive and well and ready to lead the new global market for fuel-efficient electric vehicles."
A123Systems advanced lithium-ion battery chemistry has the capability of meeting consumer demands for performance, driving range, and durability. A123Systems is currently planning a site in Michigan where it will manufacture Nanophosphate Lithium ion prismatic battery cells, modules, and battery packs for Chrysler LLC.
"Chrysler has successfully worked with A123Systems, both directly and through USCAR, for more than 3 years to improve the technology for automotive applications," said Lou Rhodes, Vice President-Advanced Vehicle Engineering and President of ENVI. "We have confidence that by partnering with A123Systems our near-term and long-term electrification goals will be met."
"Government and society are calling for the introduction of a variety of advanced propulsion vehicles," said John Bozzella, Senior Vice President-External Affairs and Public Policy, Chrysler LLC. "This partnership with A123Systems signifies Chrysler's commitment to contribute to our nation's goal of reducing dependence on foreign sources of energy, and reducing greenhouse gas emissions. Chrysler's partnership with A123Systems represents a win-win-win for the American consumer, American manufacturing and the environment."
ENVI -- letters that represent the first four letters of environment -- is Chrysler LLC's entrepreneurial in-house organization focused on electric-drive production vehicles and related advanced technologies. ENVI is a cross-functional, nimble team empowered to move quickly and access vast resources within Chrysler LLC in order to integrate electric-vehicle technology into existing products.
"With ENVI-powered electric vehicles, Chrysler LLC is inspiring a personal mobility revolution, creating a new generation of responsible, no-compromise Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep vehicles," said Klegon.
SOURCE Chrysler LLC
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A123与克莱斯勒结盟,这是一个重大事件。
A123在与COMPACT POWER争夺VOLT首期供货合同最后出局,这很可能是导致其IPO推迟的主因。
随着与克莱斯勒结盟,如果再顺利获取DOE的18亿美金贷款资助,则其可能迅速启动IPO。
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海大搞的这些DD太超前,而且都是英文地,翻译下就好了.
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Ireland Inks EV Deal with Renault-Nissan
by: Greentech Media April 05, 2009 |
By Jeff St. John
The Renault-Nissan (NSANY) Alliance has inked another nationwide deal to support the introduction of up-and-coming electric vehicles, this time with Ireland and the Irish utility ESB.
The deal announced Friday would aim to bring the automakers' electric vehicles to Ireland within the next two years.
The deal includes a pledge from ESB to build an electric vehicle charging network open to all car manufacturers. Ireland has announced it hopes to have electric vehicles make up 10 percent of the cars on the road by 2020.
The news comes on the heels of Nissan's unveiling this week of its EV-02 electric car prototype, aimed at release in late 2010. The car is expected to have a range of about 100 miles and sell for less than $33,000, putting it below projected prices for several electric car rivals (see Under the Hood With Nissan's Electric Car).
While Nissan has not set a target for how many electric vehicles it hopes to sell, Renault has said it hopes to sell from 20,000 to 40,000 electric vehicles in 2011.
The Renault-Nissan Alliance has already laid plans for electric car charging networks with Israel, Denmark, Portugal, Monaco, the Kanagawa Prefecture in Japan, the states of Oregon and Tennessee and California's Sonoma County (see Portugal, Renault-Nissan Set Electric-Car Plan).
What form the charging networks for those electric cars will take is still an open question. Better Place, the Palo Alto, Calif.-based startup that wants to build networks of battery-swapping stations in lieu of charging outlets, is working with Nissan in Israel, Denmark and Portugal.
According to the Irish Times, the Irish energy agency Sustainable Energy Ireland has estimated that those networks have cost about €200 million ($268 million). Better Place is also planning to build charging networks in Australia, Ontario, Hawaii, and the San Francisco Bay Area – the last at an estimated cost of $1 billion (see Better Place and Ontario Launch Project and Better Place to Charge Up California).
But Nissan is also working with fast-charging technology company Ecotality to build a charging network in the Tuscon, Ariz. area. Ecotality CEO Jonathan Read is one of several electric car charging criticized Better Place's battery-swapping concept (see Ecotality and Nissan Team on EV Charging Tech).
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海外的整个产业都在布局,尤其是基础配套设施这块。
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呵呵,谢谢 hayek兄指点。
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faom : 个人认为HEV比VLNC风险小一些。这两家目前都在向DoE申请贷款用于扩大生产规模。最稳妥的方式还是耐心等A123挂牌。不过,如果DOE的贷款批准以及经济复苏振兴计划的20亿美金资助下拨,可能是该行业的重大催化剂。
天牙海脚 :技术方面,我不懂,也基本没花时间去判断谁能胜出。上文我贴出过电池厂商与各大车厂的结盟情况,静观其变。国内这块的技术还是要多存一些疑问。股票“炒”是另外一回事。
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刚看到这个帖,,真是好贴,兄台对这方面很是认真的进行了研究和总结,非常感谢兄台。
关于磷酸铁锂和锰酸锂,这个个人看法和兄台交流,请兄多指教:
磷酸铁锂:
---------看上去很美,做起来很难。
全世界目前仅a123勉强做出符合理论值一半的磷酸铁锂(比如理论2000次,a123现在能做到1000次左右)。就从美国报告来看,a123也在考虑向磷酸锰锂方向关注研究。铁锂的实际困难可能比想象中的大。比如最坚定的通用汽车,似乎也是a123的投资者,一直宣称采用a123的磷酸铁锂,但是现在已经确定,第一批volt将使用lg化学的锰酸锂动力电池。(至于国内的磷酸铁锂,个人认为基本都是忽悠,那些宣传能做出合格磷酸铁锂动力电池的,基本就和说证券分析师可以选好股票赚大钱的人一样)(当然,低端铁锂是另外一回事情)。而a123得纳米技术制备磷酸铁锂,成本极高,目前也是受到很多限制,并非可以随意扩产。
锰酸锂:
---------山花已烂漫,何日结果实? 目前已知的全球主流车厂宣布的锂动力汽车,几乎都采用的锰酸锂动力电池。从这点来说,我认为目前锰酸锂应该是成熟度最高的。铁锂的问题不仅仅是专利问题,a123铁锂不是也暂时被通用搁置了?!具体原因虽然不清楚(业内传闻测试着火),但是必然和整体成熟度有很大关系。动力电池,不仅仅是电解液,还牵扯到单个电池的制作,整组电池的一致性(这个也是世界难题),电源管理的成熟(比如伊顿,就是做电源为主的)等等,而目前,铁锂连电解液也没有解决好,后面应该更难展开。日本的锰酸锂已经进行了多年的实车测试,安全性方面基本得到全球车厂的认可。国内的盟固利锰酸锂动力电池,整体水平基本接近日本,实车测试进行多年,锰酸锂动力电池产业化,已经初具规模,去年采购锰酸锂电解液1200万元用于锰酸锂电池的制作(200吨左右,这个做出来的电池可不少,何况本身盟固利还回收租赁的)。不过据我了解,盟固利销售方面很有问题,,,,,,
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具体牵扯到的一些细节,兄台可以参看我另外两篇电池材料方面的帖子。
请兄多指教,,呵呵