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凡是老大的帖子必须得顶
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凡是老大的帖子必须得顶,老大的帖子很好认啊,“包括但不限于。。。”思维缜密,推理严谨,呵呵。
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居然是haijin兄。《2008远离A股》,可惜太过自信
600550 了
如果关注储能行业,全钒液流储能电池,马上就要粉墨登场了。
这个产品,国内一上来就直接上演世界水平的对决
目前已经有几个示范运行的项目,但是时间不够久,还不足够给出有说服力的数据
2009年,会逐步出现在公众面前
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过来支持偶像,呵呵。
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OBAMA周二晚间在参众两院联席会议上有一番激情的演讲,部分内容值得我们去思考。以下为节选。
WSJ中文网站有一些翻译:
【经济复苏计划和金融稳定计划是我们为了在短期内重振经济而采取的应急措施。但全面 兴美国经济实力的唯一途径,是在那些能够创造新的就业、催生新的行业并恢复美国全球竞争力的领域进行长期投资。要让本世纪再度成为美国世纪,唯一的办法是我们下决心正视依赖石油的代价,正视医疗成本高企的现实,正视学校教育失职以及我们的后代将面临庞大债务的事实。这是我们的责任所在。】
【但是,我在生活中也认识到,希望是在意想不到的地方发现的;灵感往往不是来自于位高权重之人,而是来自平凡美国人的梦想和渴望。】
原文中,有一些涉及到储能行业的内容,摘录:
It begins with energy.
We know the country that harnesses the power of clean, renewable energy will lead the 21st century. And yet, it is China that has launched the largest effort in history to make their economy energy efficient. We invented solar technology, but we've fallen behind countries like Germany and Japan in producing it. New plug-in hybrids roll off our assembly lines, but they will run on batteries made in Korea. (obama提及中国的能效改善措施指哪些?obama似乎对于lg chemical供给给volt电池不是很满意,这对于美国本土的电池及相关企业应该是较大的利好-----hayek)
Well I do not accept a future where the jobs and industries of tomorrow take root beyond our borders — and I know you don't either. It is time for America to lead again. (通过技术创新,obama似乎更加提倡美国制造业的复兴-------hayek)
Thanks to our recovery plan, we will double this nation's supply of renewable energy in the next three years. We have also made the largest investment in basic research funding in American history — an investment that will spur not only new discoveries in energy, but breakthroughs in medicine, science and technology. (可再生能源未来3年翻倍,加强基础研究)
We will soon lay down thousands of miles of power lines that can carry new energy to cities and towns across this country. And we will put Americans to work making our homes and buildings more efficient so that we can save billions of dollars on our energy bills. (建设电网,提高房屋建筑节能标准)
But to truly transform our economy, protect our security and save our planet from the ravages of climate change, we need to ultimately make clean, renewable energy the profitable kind of energy. So I ask this Congress to send me legislation that places a market-based cap on carbon pollution and drives the production of more renewable energy in America. And to support that innovation, we will invest fifteen billion dollars a year to develop technologies like wind power and solar power, advanced biofuels, clean coal and more fuel-efficient cars and trucks built right here in America. (obama号召两院立法,形成市场化基础上的碳排放收费以及推动可再生能源的发展,支持创新,发展风电、太阳能、生物能源、节能汽车等技术)
As for our auto industry, everyone recognizes that years of bad decision-making and a global recession have pushed our automakers to the brink. We should not, and will not, protect them from their own bad practices. But we are committed to the goal of a retooled, re-imagined auto industry that can compete and win. Millions of jobs depend on it. Scores of communities depend on it. And I believe the nation that invented the automobile cannot walk away from it. (推动汽车产业重组,重塑之,新能源汽车可能是突破方向)
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【 · 原创: stones 只看该作者(-1) 2009-02-25 13:56】
石头兄好啊。多交流。
这个产业刚起步,说不清谁能赚到钱。
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我的投资之路:兄客气了,直接叫我昵称即可。
PPO,大行覆盖的只有JPMorgan。其他覆盖的就是2个做市商,好像。
搬迁没太大影响,只影响GAAP数字,明天就公告四季报了,到时可以看下。
JCI取消订单,很大程度跟罢工有关,当然,这只是猜测。我上边说过了,JCI的最大供货商是entek,所以取消也正常。JCI的量占铅酸隔膜这块比重大概8%吧。对于09年的影响大概不超过0.2EPS了。市场据此有猜测exide09年合同到期后会不会取消合作,我个人认为可能性不太大。
关闭的是位于意大利的工厂,应该是很久以前就提出来了,不会罢工了。这个搬迁会给公司带来成本的节约。
Microporous Products L.P.的事情,按照公司的说法是,Microporous Products L.P.垄断不垄断,跟公司收购它无关,反正它不是涉及到电池隔膜这块的竞争。商务部有点无聊,结果无法预料。
总之,公司倒霉的事情遇到了一堆,但我想,这不改变公司在产业内的竞争地位,也不改变公司为锂电隔膜的布局。这个价位上,我们只看乐观的因素。呵呵。
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原来是牛人海进!
强力支持!!
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谢谢偶像!
关于PPO的资料好像不太好找,媒体关注的较少
在其三季报里,有如下的阐述:
As previously disclosed, a supply contract between Polypore's Daramic lead-acid separator business and Johnson Controls, Inc. expires on December 31, 2008. Because Polypore now anticipates that it will not have a material supply position with Johnson Controls, Inc. for automotive lead-acid battery separators in 2009, on October 24, 2008 Polypore's Board of Directors (the "Board") approved the implementation of a plan to align lead-acid battery separator production capacity with demand, reduce costs and position Polypore to meet future growth opportunities (the "Plan"). The Plan includes closing Polypore's facility in Potenza, Italy and streamlining production at Polypore's facility in Owensboro, Kentucky by the end of this fiscal year (January 3, 2009).
The current estimated cost of the Plan is expected to be in the range of $54.0 to $63.0 million, including estimated cash charges of $24.0 to $30.0 million for site clean-up and remediation and other costs, including severance benefits and an estimated non-cash impairment charge of $30.0 to $33.0 million primarily for buildings and equipment that will no longer be used in Potenza, Italy.
During the fourth quarter of 2008, Polypore expects to begin implementing the Plan and to record the estimated $54.0 to 63.0 million restructuring charge (approximately $52.0 to $61.0 million net of income tax), or an estimated $1.16 to $1.36 per fully diluted share. Cash payments associated with the Plan are expected to be paid over the next five years.
The timing, scope and costs of the Plan (including income tax considerations) are subject to change as Polypore implements the Plan and continues to evaluate its business needs and costs.
这个针对铅酸电池隔膜业务的Plan,对09年财年的盈利影响较大。偶像有何看法?您说的“公司在铅酸隔膜这块主要服务于after market,受经济危机的冲击可能不会非常大”,是什么意思?不太明白
另外,关闭工厂会不会再次引起罢工呢?“值得期待”,呵呵
比较关键的一点,偶像觉得对收购Microporous Products L.P.的反垄断诉讼,公司胜算的机率有多大?不知道最近有无新的进展,我看了那个诉讼材料后,总感觉不太乐观
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论坛看到的最好的帖子之一,感谢hayek兄